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<p>The ultimate coup would be to commandeer one of these and be able
to control it and have all it collected and be able to land it
successfully. That is the fear I have with ALL /drone/robotic/AI
machines is that our enemies will figure out how to take command
of it and then either just turn it off or use it against us. That
is where a man in the loop mechanical mechanism may still have an
advantage. Something capable but also simple and immune to
electronic manipulation. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/4/2023 12:38 PM, Michael G.
Brattland wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times
New Roman"">Pretty interesting Andy….I was thinking
shotting it down might not be as easy as you think…Article
is nice background on this aspect…mgb<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times
New Roman""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times
New Roman"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times
New Roman""> Helobubbas
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:helobubbas-bounces@helobubbas.com"><helobubbas-bounces@helobubbas.com></a> <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Andy Cain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 4, 2023 11:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Helobubbas'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:helobubbas@helobubbas.com"><helobubbas@helobubbas.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Helobubbas] China's Spy Balloon
Over Montana Is Part Of A Larger, More Troubling Pattern<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><a
href="https://www.businessinsider.com/shooting-down-chinese-spy-balloon-harder-than-it-seems-2023-2"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.businessinsider.com/shooting-down-chinese-spy-balloon-harder-than-it-seems-2023-2</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">We get much
better intel from observing it than killing it. And, we can
spoof it as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-outline-level:1"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> Helobubbas <<a
href="mailto:helobubbas-bounces@helobubbas.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">helobubbas-bounces@helobubbas.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marc Liebman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 4, 2023 10:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Helobubbas <<a
href="mailto:helobubbas@helobubbas.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">helobubbas@helobubbas.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Helobubbas] China's Spy Balloon
Over Montana Is Part Of A Larger, More Troubling Pattern<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"American
Typewriter"">The warrior in me says shoot it or them
down. That’s what the PRC, DPRK, Soviet Union/Russia does
when our recon planes came near their borders.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"American
Typewriter""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"American
Typewriter"">So, I don’t understand the reasoning. The
PRC is going to poke and prod until we do something. If this
balloon goes down over Montana, what is it going to land on,
some cows? The payload would be worth its weight in gold in
that we’ll learn more about their capabilities and see what
IP was stolen.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"American
Typewriter""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"American
Typewriter"">The cynic in me says we have nothing to
shoot it down with….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"American
Typewriter""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Bradley
Hand"">Marc Liebman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.marcliebman.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Bookman
Old Style",serif;color:#0563C1">www.marcliebman.com</span></a><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old
Style",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span
style="font-family:"American Typewriter"">Author
of</span></u><span style="font-family:"American
Typewriter"">:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"American Typewriter"">Cherubs
2<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"American Typewriter"">Big
Mother 40<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"American Typewriter"">Render
Harmless<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"American Typewriter"">Forgotten<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"American Typewriter"">Inner
Look<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"American Typewriter"">Moscow
Airlift<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"American Typewriter"">The
Simushir Island Incident<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"American Typewriter"">Raider
of the Scottish Coast<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"American Typewriter"">Carronade<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"American Typewriter"">Flight
of the Pawnee<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"American Typewriter"">Failure
to Fire<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"American Typewriter""><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Typewriter""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"American
Typewriter""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-outline-level:1"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Helobubbas <<a
href="mailto:helobubbas-bounces@helobubbas.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">helobubbas-bounces@helobubbas.com</a>>
on behalf of Harold Brattland <<a
href="mailto:habrattland@arvig.net"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">habrattland@arvig.net</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 11:45 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Helobubbas <<a
href="mailto:helobubbas@helobubbas.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">helobubbas@helobubbas.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Helobubbas] China's Spy Balloon Over
Montana Is Part Of A Larger, More Troubling Pattern<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">So who has
the catchers mitt, Coasties or Navy, to catch the balloon
when it comes down off-shore?? Maybe those MH-53 with their
tow gear to sweep-up the parts?<br>
AF Mid Air Retrieval Gear is in the bone yard, as is the old
balloon chasers!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt">On Feb 3, 2023, at 23:02,
James Gould <<a href="mailto:nado.dad@gmail.com"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">To
allow this balloon to fly over one millimeter of
U.S. territory is unconscionable! To allow it to
continue over most of the country is treason.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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